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So, How much did you pay today?.. Boiling Frogs

Yes, I am about to speak out once again against our current system of taxation, but before I do lets remember what is truly important.

20:Then he asked them, "Whose face and name is this?"
21: They said to him, "Caesar's." So he said to them, "Then give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." 

Mathew 20-21


So do you know how much you gave back today?  I was listening to Neil Boortz this morning and he had Sean Hannity on as a guest.  They were talking about all of the Tea Party rallies being held around the country today (including a big one here in Atlanta) and the Fair Tax.

The idea came up to ask people today how much they paid.  It's seems like a simple question but you likely will get several different answers..

  • I didn't pay anything ... I got money back! Wrong! You made an interest free loan to the government out of each weeks paycheck and then they mailed some of your money back.
  • I only had to pay a little ... I had to write a check for a few hundred dollars.  Wrong again! See the above answer and then add a few dollars to keep them from coming after you.
  • Those S.O.B.S  I had to write a check for $$$$ (some large dollar amount)  This will be the rarest answer and the most correct but still not 100% correct.

The truth is that nobody will know the exact answer.  The government likes it that way so they can tax the life out of us and we'll never realize. Kind of like putting a frog in a pot of cold water and then turning on the heat.  He'll never know to jump out and just gets boiled up for frog legs.

You think you got money back? HAH!  Even if you got a refund equal to what you paid in, your employer still paid a payroll tax on your behalf just for the opportunity to create a job for you.  Your boss gets taxed not just on his/her  profits but on the amount they pay you.  Wake up! that's money they could use to give you a raise or expand their business.

Did you stop at Dunkin' Donuts for some calories and caffeine today? Sure you paid a little sales tax and you were aware of that.   The donut man has to pay tax on his payroll and profits, the truck driver that brought the dough and coffee beans pays taxes, his employer pays payroll and income tax, the farmer that grew the grain that made the dough, the importer who got the delicious beans, the manufacturer who made the coffee cups and the donut box, the electric company, and every other vendor or service provider that was used to get you coffee and a donut was taxed.  All of those costs of doing business are embedded in to the cost of the coffee and donut! When you buy the coffee and donut you are paying all of those taxes because they were hidden in the cost. Businesses don't pay taxes.  Taxes are built in to the cost of good or service that you purchase, the business collects the tax and forwards it on the the government.

What if .... we just took all those taxes away and just paid one time at the end of the line?
There is proposal before congress to do just that!  It is called the Fair Tax. It creates one simple tax at the end of the line and eliminates all the hidden taxes and stupid loopholes.  The  first $30,000 or so of your income will be exempt based on your family size.  

Most CPA's favor the fair tax because it will allow them to actually counsel their clients in making sound business decisions instead of making decisions based on tax consequences. Most congressmen hate it because it will make the people aware of how much they are paying.  Remember the frog in the boiling water?

Here are just a few of the up sides:

  • You keep 100% of your paycheck  + your boss is not taxed on how much they pay you
  • People who right now do not file or hide income instantly become taxpayers! Illegal immigrants, drug dealers, cash incomes earners like bartenders, all become taxpayers!
  • Foreign visitors pay tax
  • America becomes THE place to locate a new business.  With no corporate income taxes business from all over the world will locate here. Wow! Talk about creating more jobs!
  • WE the people will see what we are being charged and can hold our gov't accountable.



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Comment balloon 7 commentsBob Southard • April 15 2009 12:16PM


An old saying between congress members, " Don't tax you, don't tax me tax that guy behind the tree!"  Keep writing!

Posted by Jason Pavlovic (Surety Realty, Inc.) almost 11 years ago

I was listening to Neal for awhile this morning to on my way to a tea party. It just makes so much sense.

Posted by Hugh Krone, Realtor, Sussex County NJ (Weichert Referral Associates) almost 11 years ago

Bob - I didn't pay anything to the Feds today, but that is becaue I was one of the that got hit with AMT where I had to actually pay more in taxes than I earned for about 5 years in row. The good news, that gets credited towards my taxes every year. The bad news, I won't live long enough to ever get it back. So that might actually be your rarest answer.

Posted by Mike Saunders (Lanier Partners) almost 11 years ago

Mike- Gotta love that AMT.

Posted by Kevin Robinson, Fractional Developer almost 11 years ago

Bob, how many people do you think will have put away money for taxes to be paid at the end of the year?  I can't understand why there is an anti-tax movement a foot, albeit a small one at best.  If you don't pay taxes, how are the military personnel going to get paid?  Want good roads?  Want to collect Social Security?  Want your kids to get a good education?  How bout an opt-out program.  You opt out of paying taxes, but you don't get to avail yourself of any services.  And if the time comes when you need the military to defend you, oops sorry, they wont be there.

Posted by Terry Haugen STAGE it RIGHT! 321-956-2495 (Stage it Right!) almost 11 years ago

Terry - while not answering for Bob, it is not a movement against paying taxes, it is a movement against paying excess taxes, indescriminate spending and the lack of accountability by those that hold positions of responsibility. Throwing more good money after bad has never worked. If it did, we would not be in the 5th decade of the anti-poverty program.

Posted by Mike Saunders (Lanier Partners) almost 11 years ago


How could you construe that I am opposed to taxes? The Fair Tax is a TAX.  It's just a completely different model than what is currently used. 

As a matter of fact I think the implentation of the Fair Tax is supported by the point you make. The Fair Tax ends being revenue neatral. Teh income to the gov't is estimated to be the same.  However with the Fair Tax, the politicians won't be able about who or how to tax.  They will be left to govern and debate the issues at hand whther it is eduacation, military spending, environmental issues, etc.  The Fair Tax does not address spending at all.  All of the spending issues will still be debated among our elected officials.  This will allow them to govern instead of worrying about this or that tax policy.

Posted by Bob Southard, e-Pro - Cobb, Cherokee, North Fulton (Atlas Realty Service, LLC) almost 11 years ago

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